Sport Pilot Talk

What are sport pilots actaully flying?

Cub flyer — Wed May 14, 2008 7:22 am

Author: Cub flyer

Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 7:22 am

The way we did it was:

Private glider pilot is higher than a normal sport pilot. We had the glider pilot take three hours instruction with a CFI in the J-3. Instructor #1 signed him off as proficient in the J-3. Then the glider pilot flew with instructor #2 also in the J-3 and he signed him off as proficient in the J-3 and sport pilot airplanes under 87 knots.

I forget the exact signoff wording but can get it for you.

The examining instructor (#2) cannot fly the last 3 hours of training with the glider pilot.

Glider pilot fills out an 8710-11 which instructor #2 signs and it gets mailed in.

This is odd in that there is no formal checkride with a designated examiner and also you keep your glider license. To operate an airplane as a sport pilot you need your logbook with you to show the signoffs if ramp checked.

With the changes to the LSA rule proposed I believe this type of checkride/ checkout will no longer work. It is still legal until any rule changes go into effect.

sportpilot.org was helpful figuring out how to do it.

Flight Design forum - bias

vwvectors — Wed May 14, 2008 12:10 am

Author: vwvectors

Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 12:10 am

Charlietango , I hope your successful in your "negotiations" with Roger .

gyroplanes

ka7eej — Wed May 14, 2008 12:02 am

Author: ka7eej

Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 12:02 am

There are some new 2 place gyroplane that are really cool looking but you are back to the price of a new LSA. 75-100K Check out the sportcopterII at sportcopter.com and the ufoenforcer.com and the xenongyroplanes.com. I like all three of these....There are some FAA hurdles still to jump over on these but I hope that is all cleared up soon and you will see more of these in the air.

Any info on EA-81s

WurlyBird — Tue May 13, 2008 1:05 pm

Author: WurlyBird

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 1:05 pm

My wife and I are searching for a plane and we keep coming across planes with EA-81s and I can't find much about them. I like the 4 stroke reliability and the price is WORLDS better then a Rotax 912. How does it compare as far as reliability, overhaul cost, life expectancy? Any information or first hand experience would be greatly appreciated.

How we've advanced from the C-3

Cub flyer — Tue May 13, 2008 12:38 am

Author: Cub flyer

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 12:38 am

grandaddy of all LSA

http://www.pilotfriend.com/flight_reports/reports/c3e.htm

Metal vs. Tube & Fabric, pros/cons

Cub flyer — Tue May 13, 2008 12:26 am

Author: Cub flyer

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 12:26 am

Piper used to paint their tubing with a blend of paint ends from Randolph.

Yep. Painted the frames with toxic waste. It held up for many years.

Old man Piper was the master of cheap airplane construction.

cub flight report

Cub flyer — Tue May 13, 2008 12:20 am

Author: Cub flyer

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 12:20 am

ran across this. http://www.pilotfriend.com/flight_reports/reports/45e.htm

I'd pretty much agree with all of it.

Popular Rotorcraft Assoications International Convention

Jeff Tipton — Mon May 12, 2008 11:35 am

Author: Jeff Tipton

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 11:35 am

Popular Rotorcraft Associations International Convention. The world's largest gathering of homebuilt rotorcraft. Helicopters, Gyroplanes and all forms of aircraft are welcome. Vendors, workshops, seminars, forums, gyro/helicopter kit manufacturers, camping on-site and more. Rotorcraft flying all day as weather permits. 9am - 6pm.

Airport Identifier: C92
Event Start Date: 08/05/08
Event End Date: 08/09/08
Location, Mentone Indiana
Contact: PRA Office, Jennifer Gilmore
Contact Phone: 574-353-7227
Contact Email: prahq@medt.com
Event website: www.pra.org

CTLS Thoughts and Venting

CharlieTango — Mon May 12, 2008 10:03 am

Author: CharlieTango

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:03 am

artp wrote:

CharlieTango wrote:

even without the corvairs and smokers involved your logic remains hard to follow.

Let me make it as simple as possible for you. I should not have to wait a month or more for parts. There should be enough authorized service centers in my region that I don't have to wait a month for an appointment. If something does not work I should not have to listen to the only authorized service center saying it can't be fixed, while Flight Design says it works fine but is not actually willing get it fixed. Is that clear enough or do you consider any mention of a Flight Design problem to be bashing? ....

you are applying general aviation standards to a new category. you are looking at the most mature slsa manufacturer and deeming what should be by decree. your current position would be more reasonable if, other slsa had achieved your standards, or if we weren't in a new category, or if you applied your intelligence and made your issues go away as opposed to wallowing in them. to each his own.

what i consider bashing is a whole year of something close to 100% negativity, moving from issue, to issue, real or imagined. if i listened to you i would avoid flight design like the plague, however i have 350 hours of real life experience operating out of one of the most demanding environments in the 48 states. you have 7% of that amount of time, not even enough to get familiar. the ctsw continues to impress me and everyone around here.

in my neck of the woods i get equivalent service to cessna/piper/cirrus owners.

the president emeritus of the cirrus owners and pilots association fly's with us ct guys on a regular basis. we know that your total negativity regarding your current aircraft is a personal trait. we know that you are highly effective with what you do. it is a bit hard to understand your motivation.

i wish you well and would like to think that our conversation is over. it is hard for me to sit back and watch the unwarranted damage you do so who knows?

Hello from Ohio

CTflyer — Mon May 12, 2008 8:32 am

Author: CTflyer

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 8:32 am

Seth - how are those lessons going? Checked your blog and see the latest entry on April 27.

Still on your way?

Tom

Its in my blood.... but not my eyes

CTflyer — Mon May 12, 2008 8:29 am

Author: CTflyer

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 8:29 am

Chip - what's the latest? Any progress in your pilot plans?

Tom

US flight in a CT

Roger — Sun May 11, 2008 10:51 pm

Author: Roger

Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 10:51 pm

Hey all,

THis week is our second annual CT fly-in and I just found out today that one of the attendees is flying from New York to McMinnville, Oregon to attend the event.

He's on is way and isn't hear yet but hopefully the weather will cooperate and he'll make it.

I'm lucky enough to know this guy personally - he's an inspiration on a personal level and is helping to prove what can be achieved under the Sport Pilot rules and what great planes are coming out of the LSA category.

Roger H

Falcon?

Dougoutfl — Thu May 08, 2008 6:58 pm

Author: Dougoutfl

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 6:58 pm

Ken,

Try the link below. I think it is what you are looking for. I was impressed.

http://tandtaviation.com/

Didn't make my first flight tonight.

artp — Wed May 07, 2008 1:06 pm

Author: artp

Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 1:06 pm

I went for my service appointment today.

I now have a working landing light , CHT probe, and door struts that keep the doors open.

Today the temperature hit 80+ so I removed tape from the radiator because I was worried it might overheat. I could have saved the time. I have now flown in temperatures from the 20�s to the 80�s, with and without aluminum tape and the oil temperature stays in the 150 to 170 degree range. It is clear that the thermostat works, it is just the wrong one for this plane. Rotax calls for a normal operating range from 190 to 230.

zlin crash

Cub flyer — Wed May 07, 2008 12:41 pm

Author: Cub flyer

Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 12:41 pm

Another example of flutter resistance with proper control surface shape.

My 1961 Piper Apache has a very large rudder with rudder trim tab and actuator.

No aerodynamic balance, centering springs or balance weights. Just a straight hinge line. cable controls.

Redline is 227 MPH. fastest I have gone is 190 mph in a dive. steady as a rock.