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Re: GDL 82 for my Sky Arrow?

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 9:13 am
by MrMorden
For the record, I was not saying you can't size CBs to twice the rated load of devices, and I'm agnostic on how you size CBs.

What I'm saying is you can't appropriately size a CB unless you know the amp rating of the wires behind it. If you have your GDL-82 connected with 10 gauge wiring, a 50A breaker might be safe. If you use 26 gauge wire, 3A might be too much. The breaker has to be sized to the wire, not to the device requirement...

Re: GDL 82 for my Sky Arrow?

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 9:19 am
by TimTaylor
Seems to me you would size the wires and breaker to meet the requirements of the device.

Re: GDL 82 for my Sky Arrow?

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 9:53 am
by MrMorden
TimTaylor wrote:Seems to me you would size the wires and breaker to meet the requirements of the device.
That is the best way...figure the device requirements, then size the wire & breaker to suit. But in this case we're discussing of adding a new device to an existing breaker, it takes a little more thought to make sure it's a good setup.

Re: GDL 82 for my Sky Arrow?

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:10 am
by TimTaylor
MrMorden wrote:
TimTaylor wrote:Seems to me you would size the wires and breaker to meet the requirements of the device.
That is the best way...figure the device requirements, then size the wire & breaker to suit. But in this case we're discussing of adding a new device to an existing breaker, it takes a little more thought to make sure it's a good setup.
Agreed. I would run separate wiring and breaker, unless it's such low draw it doesn't matter.

Re: GDL 82 for my Sky Arrow?

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:15 am
by ShawnM
MrMorden wrote:
TimTaylor wrote:Seems to me you would size the wires and breaker to meet the requirements of the device.
That is the best way...figure the device requirements, then size the wire & breaker to suit. But in this case we're discussing of adding a new device to an existing breaker, it takes a little more thought to make sure it's a good setup.
Yup and dont forget to factor in the length of the wire as this will need to be in the equation also so the wire doesn't melt. :shock: The device only draws 0.5A max so it is a minimal load but still there's math to be done.

Re: GDL 82 for my Sky Arrow?

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:59 am
by drseti
MrMorden wrote: The breaker has to be sized to the wire, not to the device requirement...
Actually, all three (wire size, breaker current, and device load) are all inexorably linked. AC 43-13 has tables for determining the wire size required for a given load. Once you've chosen the right wire, you can then select the appropriate circuit breaker. There's a bit of convoluted (iterative) math involved - which is why they pay us engineers the big bux!

Re: GDL 82 for my Sky Arrow?

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 8:42 am
by proemer
My GTX 327 xponder is rated at an input of 15 Watts, typical, 22 watts max. (or well under 2 amps on a 14 V system). On the ground or in flight I've actually measured it (with alt encoder) at 1 to 1.5 amps.

So... it looks like adding the -82 to a 5 A breaker is possible, although as others have stated wire size, length, etc all are factors to be considered.

Pete