Just remember that when talking to ATC, the FARs permit you to abbreviate your call sign only if they initiate if. If the controller responds with your full callsign, you have to use that in all subsequent communications (until he or she gets lazy).dstclair wrote:more likely, just '95L' on further communications.
Your Callsign--How do you announce yourself?
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Re: Your Callsign--How do you announce yourself?
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Re: Your Callsign--How do you announce yourself?
I did 2 holds, 2 ILS, and 2 LPV approaches today at two different airports and used “Light Sport NXXX.” Approach and tower controllers seemed fine.
Re: Your Callsign--How do you announce yourself?
Just out of curiosity, in what IFR approved LSA?
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Re: Your Callsign--How do you announce yourself?
Was reading, “Radio Mastery for IFR Pilots” this weekend. The author concurs with you but also wrote that ATC training manuals stipulate ATC can only abbreviate a call sign when a pilot abbreviates his call sign first.drseti wrote:Just remember that when talking to ATC, the FARs permit you to abbreviate your call sign only if they initiate if. If the controller responds with your full callsign, you have to use that in all subsequent communications (until he or she gets lazy).dstclair wrote:more likely, just '95L' on further communications.
Re: Your Callsign--How do you announce yourself?
Sorry Paul, you got me. I meant to write, “I flew four practice approaches...”drseti wrote:Just out of curiosity, in what IFR approved LSA?
Re: Your Callsign--How do you announce yourself?
Dang - the AIM says just the opposite! Clearly, this is a clever gambit to ensure that everyone will use full callsigns, thus cluttering up the frequencies.cogito wrote:The author concurs with you but also wrote that ATC training manuals stipulate ATC can only abbreviate a call sign when a pilot abbreviates his call sign first.
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Only heard two aircraft told by ATC not to abbreviate. It was a long time ago during a busy night around Cincinnati and they were same make and numbers were too close and already causing confusion...
I make contact with full call sign then make and last 3 from there on. If they don't like it, they will say so.
I make contact with full call sign then make and last 3 from there on. If they don't like it, they will say so.
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Re: Your Callsign--How do you announce yourself?
I took notice on my flight back to NY from LA a few weeks ago, that controllers used, for the most part, my full call sign “NOVEMBER” XXXXX. A few that did, did so even after I abbreviated my call sign. By the middle of the flight they had me doing it. LOL.
Re: Your Callsign--How do you announce yourself?
BTW, when calling up flight following, I usually say something like:
"Experimental 509CT is type FDCT" because I know if I just say experimental they will ask my my designator. They did the same thing when my airplane was SLSA and I used to call myself "Flight Design 509CT".
"Experimental 509CT is type FDCT" because I know if I just say experimental they will ask my my designator. They did the same thing when my airplane was SLSA and I used to call myself "Flight Design 509CT".
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Athens, GA
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Re: Your Callsign--How do you announce yourself?
Funny one, ATC was in disbelief and kept ask for clarification when the owner/pilot called as “Sting N5NE”.
They just couldn’t believe that an aircraft with that number didn’t burn kerosene
They just couldn’t believe that an aircraft with that number didn’t burn kerosene

Re: Your Callsign--How do you announce yourself?
Does anyone know the correct designation for a Remos GX? Nothing I try does ATC recognize.
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Re: Your Callsign--How do you announce yourself?
According to the FAA Order JO 7360.1 dated September 2015 it's GX. The only other Remos designator is G3.TimTaylor wrote:Does anyone know the correct designation for a Remos GX? Nothing I try does ATC recognize.
Re: Your Callsign--How do you announce yourself?
Thanks. I don't remember if I tried that or not. I know they didn't like RGX. I'll try GX next time.ShawnM wrote:According to the FAA Order JO 7360.1 dated September 2015 it's GX. The only other Remos designator is G3.TimTaylor wrote:Does anyone know the correct designation for a Remos GX? Nothing I try does ATC recognize.
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Re: Your Callsign--How do you announce yourself?
FWIW. On arriving in Little Rock, AR:
ME: Little Rock Approach, Light Sport Sting 595L at...…..
LR Approach: Sting 95L, radar contact...….
ME: Little Rock Approach, Light Sport Sting 595L at...…..
LR Approach: Sting 95L, radar contact...….
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Re: Your Callsign--How do you announce yourself?
Well, I'm not surprised. A lot of Stings fly in and out of Little Rock. But that would be about the only place I'd announce as "Sting". I wouldn't assume any controller knows all the different names of LSA's. I think they see them all pretty much similar in speed to the smaller Cessnas and Pipers.dstclair wrote:FWIW. On arriving in Little Rock, AR:
ME: Little Rock Approach, Light Sport Sting 595L at...…..
LR Approach: Sting 95L, radar contact...….
When I flew a Cherokee 140, I'd just announce as "Cherokee 1234J". No controller ever asked me which model of Cherokee. I think they see them as all the same.
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