Thanks for the info.
Am I correctly inferring that this concerns international to/from flights only?
ICAO flight plan format
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Re: ICAO flight plan format
"Don't believe everything you read on the internet" - Abraham Lincoln
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Nope, any flight plans , domestic or otherwise.
Truth be told , unless I am about to fly over mountains or someplace truly remote I would never bother with a flight plan and as far as I can tell hardly anybody does ( at least for recreational type of flying ) ....
Truth be told , unless I am about to fly over mountains or someplace truly remote I would never bother with a flight plan and as far as I can tell hardly anybody does ( at least for recreational type of flying ) ....
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That is correct today. Effective next Tuesday, it becomes required for all flight plans.chicagorandy wrote: Am I correctly inferring that this concerns international to/from flights only?
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Re: ICAO flight plan format
Will do drseti.drseti wrote:Since you appear to have a completely Garmin panel, I suggest you check their website. They have a matrix showing ICAO codes for each of their different models.
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Re: ICAO flight plan format
Sounds to this uninformed geezer like the FAA's motto at work on a global scale - "We're not happy until YOU'RE not happy"?
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I haven't filed a VFR flight plan in 40+ years. I always filed IFR until I quit flying IFR. That's if I was going anywhere other than local. I use Flight Following now if I'm other than local.
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ADSB and apps like Garmin Pilot, Foreflight and others with real time updates will make flight following pretty much obsolete.
Flying Sting S4 ( N184WA ) out of Illinois
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Could be . . . but what is the purpose of flight following?Warmi wrote:ADSB and apps like Garmin Pilot, Foreflight and others with real time updates will make flight following pretty much obsolete.
The real question is . . . will the above actually replace the intent of flight following?
I think that remains to be seen.
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Well, ADSB and related technologies won’t replace Flight Following services like being automatically cleared to proceed thru some or other airspace etc but as far as traffic advisory and general advisory , you can get pretty much all of that right now out of your devices.
Frankly in my case, these few times I used FF ( flying lake short Chicago for instance ) , pretty much every traffic advisory I got , I was already aware of thanks to my Garmin 796.
Frankly in my case, these few times I used FF ( flying lake short Chicago for instance ) , pretty much every traffic advisory I got , I was already aware of thanks to my Garmin 796.
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I use flight following in case I have a problem, I'm already talking with someone who knows where I am. Flight following does not provide guaranteed traffic separation. With flight following, I don't feel the need to file a VFR flight plan.
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Problem is here in the NE you sometimes cannot get flight following because they are too busy. I've been dropped twice. Not too mention last week it took me a good 5 minutes to get their attention all the while doing circles to avoid the class C.TimTaylor wrote:I use flight following in case I have a problem, I'm already talking with someone who knows where I am. Flight following does not provide guaranteed traffic separation. With flight following, I don't feel the need to file a VFR flight plan.
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Just to be clear for those who don't know: Flight Following is great, but it provides advisory services only, on a workload-permitting basis. It does not automatically clear you through airspace - you still have to request clearance into or through a B or C. And they won't necessarily be able to vector you through (or even warn you about) TFRs, Restricted, or Prohibited areas. That's all on you, the PIC, per FAR 91.3(a).Warmi wrote:Well, ADSB and related technologies won’t replace Flight Following services like being automatically cleared to proceed thru some or other airspace
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B2 is actually ADS-B "in and out" capability. I've been specifying B1 - ADS-B "out" - for the ICAO form. But that raises a question: I do have ADS-B "in" using a Garmin GDL-39 and an iPad with Garmin Pilot, but as those are portable devices I assume I can't actually report having ADS-B "in" capability - is that correct?plus “B2” (for 1090 MHz ADS-B “out” capability)
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Yes, it does not happen automatically but they will sometimes coordinate for you and let you know that you are cleared thru space D or whatever ... I have seen it happen.drseti wrote:.... It does not automatically clear you through airspace - you still have to request clearance into or through a B or C. ...Warmi wrote:Well, ADSB and related technologies won’t replace Flight Following services like being automatically cleared to proceed thru some or other airspace
Flying Sting S4 ( N184WA ) out of Illinois