New chance to comment on medical petition

rab23us · Post by **rab23us** » Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:35 am

Ok thanks for some clarification so this would allow a rp or hopefully pp who has not had medical denied or failed stay within the classification they are currently in on a driver's license. But the key is letting the medical lapse not taking and getting denied correct?

In short if I am a SP I stay SP can't go up without medical but if I am RP or PP then I can let medical lapse and self certify?

drseti · Post by **drseti** » Fri Aug 03, 2012 9:38 am

rab23us wrote:In short if I am a SP I stay SP can't go up without medical

Except in an LSA, of course.

but if I am RP or PP then I can let medical lapse and self certify?

Exactly (that is, if the FAA approves this proposal in its present form. Who knows what they'll actually do?)

drseti · Post by **drseti** » Fri Aug 03, 2012 9:40 am

theskunk wrote:Right now I've put all aircraft purchase decisions on hold until this shakes out.

I think that's prudent.

N918KT · Post by **N918KT** » Fri Aug 03, 2012 12:05 pm

Got a response to the email I sent to AOPA Pilot Information Center last week. Basically it is restating what the other AOPA official said when I called him several days ago. The AOPA EAA medical exemption proposal DOES cover student pilots if accepted by the FAA as proposed.

Kevin,

Thank you for your email. Yes, the 3rd class medical exemption would be open to student pilots. Through this exemption, if issued as requested, any pilot holding a student, recreational, private, commercial, or ATP certificate would have the option of operating under this exemption when flying recreationally.

All the best,

Patrick Timmerman
Senior Aviation Technical Specialist
Government Affairs-Pilot Information Center
AOPA
800-872-2672

nbjeeptj · Post by **nbjeeptj** » Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:06 pm

If it were to cove a student pilot then how would that student pilot ever get a PPL with the night flying requirment that is in play.

drseti · Post by **drseti** » Fri Aug 03, 2012 2:07 pm

nbjeeptj wrote:how would that student pilot ever get a PPL with the night flying requirement

The PPL does require night flying instruction. Nothing about night solo.

drseti · Post by **drseti** » Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:10 pm

Moving this thread to the newly established "Medical Issues" forum.

nbjeeptj · Post by **nbjeeptj** » Sat Aug 04, 2012 8:04 am

It seams to me the easier thing would be to leave the rule as it is now, where PPl with an expired medical could fly under sport pilot rule and add a SP heavy endorsement much like the faster than 100mph on the SP license is now. For someone like me (as mentioned before middle aged ) that just wants to fly a little bigger airplane, (c172 / sr20/ RV7) there will be a lot of instruction that at this level would never be used. I am by no stretch saying that learning to fly at night would not make you a overall better pilot, its just a little extra cost that you can't use. If adopted as they have it now it looks like for a SP you would get a student certificate using your drivers license and complete all the remaining work toward PP including stuff you can't do under this rule, and then pay for and take a PP written test and check ride. sounds costly when the same thing could be done with an endorsement. Im sorry for my small rant. I think I will just be quiet now and go to the airport and fly my LSA and have a big smile on my face for the rest of the day.

N918KT · Post by **N918KT** » Tue Aug 07, 2012 1:00 pm

As for the student pilots who fall under the exemption, how would student pilots obtain a student pilot certificate? Do they fill out the exact same form as student sport pilots and go to the DPE or FSDO?

Also, if student pilots are included in the exemption, how is it recreational flying if they are doing flight training? Maybe they could have fun, while doing training.