2020 compliant

[Mal K9]

Does LSA have to comply with 2020

[Warmi]

Does LSA have to comply with 2020

If you mean ADSB then yeah, no different than any other aircraft.

[TimTaylor]

Yes, if you want to fly in class A, B, or C, etc. No, if you only fly in class D, E, and G.

[drdehave]

Good to know. I've flown my Sting 2,610 hours now--in 9 years, since taking the game up--and never talked to a controller yet, not one. (Could this be a record?)

So...I'm really struggling to justify just how or why I'd need it.

Nevertheless, I'm working on a very innovative possible ADSB-Out (minimal) solution that I'll report more on, soon.

[Warmi]

Good to know. I've flown my Sting 2,610 hours now--in 9 years, since taking the game up--and never talked to a controller yet, not one. (Could this be a record?)

So...I'm really struggling to justify just how or why I'd need it.

Nevertheless, I'm working on a very innovative possible ADSB-Out (minimal) solution that I'll report more on, soon.

Not even once ? Whoa .... that got to be some kind of record , especially since you don’t live in a backcountry but right there within 50 miles of at least 4 D class airports

[drdehave]

Over-the-Top, Under-the-Bottom, or Around--and create my own "Flight Following"--for almost 1,400 days of flying.

But this 10,000-ft business and the 30-mile veil--could impact me and drag me to minimal compliance.

[Warmi]

Well, I have flown my Sting only around 150 hours since I bought it in mid 2017 - about 75 hours per year , and I fly as much as I can , but given my day job and crappy Chicago winters etc .. that’s all I can do at this point.

Let us see ...at my current rate it will take me about 35 years to catch up with you ..
Maybe when I retire , in about 15-20 years , I will be able to increase my rate significantly ...

[TimTaylor]

Back when I had a valid medical and was flying the Mooney, I filed IFR on almost ever flight, regardless of weather. Now that all of my flights are VFR, I prefer to use flight following on almost every flight. I rarely fly just local, but if I do, I only call Atlanta Approach if I'm making a touch and go at KPDK, etc. Most of my flights now are into KGMU for lunch, so I always talk with Greer Approach in and out of there (class C).

[MrMorden]

Over-the-Top, Under-the-Bottom, or Around--and create my own "Flight Following"--for almost 1,400 days of flying.

But this 10,000-ft business and the 30-mile veil--could impact me and drag me to minimal compliance.

Just remember after Jan 1, 2020 you can't go over the top or under a shelf on Class B or C airports without ADS-B out...

[Mal K9]

Over-the-Top, Under-the-Bottom, or Around--and create my own "Flight Following"--for almost 1,400 days of flying.

But this 10,000-ft business and the 30-mile veil--could impact me and drag me to minimal compliance.

Just remember after Jan 1, 2020 you can't go over the top or under a shelf on Class B or C airports without ADS-B out...

Very new here. So what is it a 10 mile radius if no ADS-B? I think thats how I read it

[MrMorden]

Over-the-Top, Under-the-Bottom, or Around--and create my own "Flight Following"--for almost 1,400 days of flying.

But this 10,000-ft business and the 30-mile veil--could impact me and drag me to minimal compliance.

Just remember after Jan 1, 2020 you can't go over the top or under a shelf on Class B or C airports without ADS-B out...

Very new here. So what is it a 10 mile radius if no ADS-B?

No, you have to stay outside the footprint of a Class C or Class D airport. For Atlanta that's about 30 miles.

[drdehave]

Note that at Class C airports, we'll still be able to fly under the outside shelf, just as now: https://www.faa.gov/nextgen/equipadsb/r ... ements.jpg

[MrMorden]

Note that at Class C airports, we'll still be able to fly under the outside shelf, just as now: https://www.faa.gov/nextgen/equipadsb/r ... ements.jpg

You are correct.

[rcpilot]

Living on Long Island and surrounded by B,C and D airspace, I just broke down and ordered the uAvionix tail lamp for experimentals. Seems to be the easiest install. I'll let everyone know how it goes.

[3Dreaming]

Also worth note is that if you fly a non electrical aircraft as I often do, that you can fly under the shelf of both class B and C airspace without a transponder or ADS B. You still can not fly over the top of the airspace.